Comments on: Shut Out by StumbleUpon http://www.endgamepr.com/blog/2010/03/19/shut-out-by-stumbleupon/ Sun, 29 Jan 2012 23:28:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mike http://www.endgamepr.com/blog/2010/03/19/shut-out-by-stumbleupon/comment-page-1/#comment-157248 Mike Tue, 17 Jan 2012 02:42:53 +0000 http://www.endgamepr.com/?p=1502#comment-157248 First off, I do submit my own stuff, but never more than once a month, so as to as to stay within the StumbleUpon guidelines. What I have found is that StumbleUpon will totally ignore some of my pages, but feed some of my other pages like mad. Also, I will see a few "hot" months with steady referrals from StumbleUpon, then it goes "cold" for a couple of months or so before sending me more visitors. My hottest page was one that was discovered by a friend. Can't say I really know how it works, but I guess they like to keep it a secret. So far, SU has been good to me. Cheers. First off, I do submit my own stuff, but never more than once a month, so as to as to stay within the StumbleUpon guidelines. What I have found is that StumbleUpon will totally ignore some of my pages, but feed some of my other pages like mad. Also, I will see a few “hot” months with steady referrals from StumbleUpon, then it goes “cold” for a couple of months or so before sending me more visitors. My hottest page was one that was discovered by a friend. Can’t say I really know how it works, but I guess they like to keep it a secret. So far, SU has been good to me. Cheers.

]]> By: David http://www.endgamepr.com/blog/2010/03/19/shut-out-by-stumbleupon/comment-page-1/#comment-155902 David Thu, 12 Jan 2012 14:19:34 +0000 http://www.endgamepr.com/?p=1502#comment-155902 Thanks for this article and discussion. I was wondering why I got 1000 views within a day on a self discovererd blog post and then suddenly it stopped... I may have self discovered one too many of my posts within a short space of time and now their algorithm is punishing me. :D I will start using it properly from now on I think. Thanks for this article and discussion. I was wondering why I got 1000 views within a day on a self discovererd blog post and then suddenly it stopped… I may have self discovered one too many of my posts within a short space of time and now their algorithm is punishing me. :D I will start using it properly from now on I think.

]]> By: Steve Mullen http://www.endgamepr.com/blog/2010/03/19/shut-out-by-stumbleupon/comment-page-1/#comment-46517 Steve Mullen Tue, 11 May 2010 03:30:47 +0000 http://www.endgamepr.com/?p=1502#comment-46517 It's my web site, so I make the rules, eb. I'm all for discussion and debate, but I'm not going to approve comments that include personal insults ... particularly when they're aimed at me. With that out of the way, I can say that I'm pretty certain this has nothing to do with uninterested audiences. My previous discoveries (whether my own content or someone else's) received at minimum 50-100 views. Those views stopped abruptly, as if a spigot was turned off. It's pretty clear that StumbleUpon shut that spigot off, and I've heard of this happening to others. And, yes, I could advertise on StumbleUpon, but from my research I've learned that advertising there is largely a waste of money. Facebook and Google ads are a much better use of my and my clients' money. So, I wrote this blog post almost two months ago now to let others know about my experiences, and I've moved on. It’s my web site, so I make the rules, eb. I’m all for discussion and debate, but I’m not going to approve comments that include personal insults … particularly when they’re aimed at me.

With that out of the way, I can say that I’m pretty certain this has nothing to do with uninterested audiences. My previous discoveries (whether my own content or someone else’s) received at minimum 50-100 views. Those views stopped abruptly, as if a spigot was turned off. It’s pretty clear that StumbleUpon shut that spigot off, and I’ve heard of this happening to others. And, yes, I could advertise on StumbleUpon, but from my research I’ve learned that advertising there is largely a waste of money. Facebook and Google ads are a much better use of my and my clients’ money. So, I wrote this blog post almost two months ago now to let others know about my experiences, and I’ve moved on.

]]> By: eb http://www.endgamepr.com/blog/2010/03/19/shut-out-by-stumbleupon/comment-page-1/#comment-46514 eb Tue, 11 May 2010 01:58:41 +0000 http://www.endgamepr.com/?p=1502#comment-46514 It seems to me like you should take "Monica's" advice and start using their paid services. You say that you were submitting quality content that got well reviewed elsewhere, but is it possible that no one else cares? I just looked through my discoveries (I'm not a hardcore SU user) and I have several, more than two hands worth of discoveries that I thought were AWESOME, that no one else cares about. I understand your disappointment, but that's how the internet works. And honestly, it really annoys me when I stumble to a website several times in one session/day/whatever where the person doing the discoveries is obviously the same person that runs the site (i.e., using the website name as their SU username). Also, the internet is personal. Are you really going to censor people because what they say is personal? So lord xeon says you have no friends, say someone else calls your mother fat, it is your right as admin to do reject a comment, but to actually admit that you won't allow comments that "get personal?" Censor the spam, the rest is what makes the internet great. Also, I did NOT find this through stumble, but through a friend, which is part of the magic that lord xeon alluded to. It seems to me like you should take “Monica’s” advice and start using their paid services.
You say that you were submitting quality content that got well reviewed elsewhere, but is it possible that no one else cares? I just looked through my discoveries (I’m not a hardcore SU user) and I have several, more than two hands worth of discoveries that I thought were AWESOME, that no one else cares about.
I understand your disappointment, but that’s how the internet works.
And honestly, it really annoys me when I stumble to a website several times in one session/day/whatever where the person doing the discoveries is obviously the same person that runs the site (i.e., using the website name as their SU username).
Also, the internet is personal. Are you really going to censor people because what they say is personal? So lord xeon says you have no friends, say someone else calls your mother fat, it is your right as admin to do reject a comment, but to actually admit that you won’t allow comments that “get personal?” Censor the spam, the rest is what makes the internet great.
Also, I did NOT find this through stumble, but through a friend, which is part of the magic that lord xeon alluded to.

]]> By: Steve Mullen http://www.endgamepr.com/blog/2010/03/19/shut-out-by-stumbleupon/comment-page-1/#comment-46504 Steve Mullen Mon, 10 May 2010 20:04:28 +0000 http://www.endgamepr.com/?p=1502#comment-46504 No one needs to tell me how StumbleUpon works. As I've said, what irks me is that I wrote a post giving suggestions on how to use the site, I received a thumbs up and a positive review from a site manager, and then within a week I was thrown in the sandbox (or whatever they call it over there). I was not promoting commercial/advertising content, and I was stumbling a lot of content that was not mine. They have formulas over there for who will successfully use the site and who won't, and the final decisions appear to be made by software, not people. Because additional conversation on this will simply lead to me repeating myself (again), I'm not going to comment any further. Disagree with me if you like ... I don't have a problem with that. But, if it gets personal (like this guy who calls himself "lord xeon" nearly did), I simply won't approve your comment. No one needs to tell me how StumbleUpon works. As I’ve said, what irks me is that I wrote a post giving suggestions on how to use the site, I received a thumbs up and a positive review from a site manager, and then within a week I was thrown in the sandbox (or whatever they call it over there). I was not promoting commercial/advertising content, and I was stumbling a lot of content that was not mine. They have formulas over there for who will successfully use the site and who won’t, and the final decisions appear to be made by software, not people.

Because additional conversation on this will simply lead to me repeating myself (again), I’m not going to comment any further. Disagree with me if you like … I don’t have a problem with that. But, if it gets personal (like this guy who calls himself “lord xeon” nearly did), I simply won’t approve your comment.

]]> By: lord xeon http://www.endgamepr.com/blog/2010/03/19/shut-out-by-stumbleupon/comment-page-1/#comment-46482 lord xeon Mon, 10 May 2010 03:57:30 +0000 http://www.endgamepr.com/?p=1502#comment-46482 So you submitted your own site, or your client's site for the sole purpose of getting traffic. You claim that the content was original, and worthy. You complain when you only get a few dozen views. You don't know how SU works. I've discovered thousands of different pages, and the views range from a mere 11 all the way up to 36k. (the K stands for thousand by the way) I don't judge the SU by the number of views a particular discovery makes, but rather by the amount of new, original, quality content I submit. I will admit, I have a few websites that I run, and I've submitted a few things from them to SU, but more often then not I've sent to my friends I've made on SU specific blog posts that I wrote that I knew they would be interested in. And if they thought it was interesting, they discovered it. That's the way SU is supposed to work. You need to utilize you're friends, and I don't mean to be mean about this, but it sounds like you have no friends, you should get on that and make some. (lord-xeon =>me) Just so you know though, I despise people who send me link after link with the same responses "Thumbs up and review if you like this" I rarely give it a review, and after about a steady week of getting links from them, I remove them from my friends list, and sometimes give them a negative review and mark as a spammer. I also don't care how many views the things I stumble get. I don't care how it looks for my internet ego. The real jewel to SU is that 7 months after you post something, submit it and get 12 views, someone else will "discover" it, give it a thumbs up, and a healthy review, and all of a sudden your server is broken for a week. (I've had that happen to me, several times) So you submitted your own site, or your client’s site for the sole purpose of getting traffic. You claim that the content was original, and worthy. You complain when you only get a few dozen views.
You don’t know how SU works.

I’ve discovered thousands of different pages, and the views range from a mere 11 all the way up to 36k. (the K stands for thousand by the way) I don’t judge the SU by the number of views a particular discovery makes, but rather by the amount of new, original, quality content I submit.

I will admit, I have a few websites that I run, and I’ve submitted a few things from them to SU, but more often then not I’ve sent to my friends I’ve made on SU specific blog posts that I wrote that I knew they would be interested in. And if they thought it was interesting, they discovered it.
That’s the way SU is supposed to work.
You need to utilize you’re friends, and I don’t mean to be mean about this, but it sounds like you have no friends, you should get on that and make some.
(lord-xeon =>me)

Just so you know though, I despise people who send me link after link with the same responses “Thumbs up and review if you like this” I rarely give it a review, and after about a steady week of getting links from them, I remove them from my friends list, and sometimes give them a negative review and mark as a spammer.

I also don’t care how many views the things I stumble get. I don’t care how it looks for my internet ego. The real jewel to SU is that 7 months after you post something, submit it and get 12 views, someone else will “discover” it, give it a thumbs up, and a healthy review, and all of a sudden your server is broken for a week.
(I’ve had that happen to me, several times)

]]> By: jon http://www.endgamepr.com/blog/2010/03/19/shut-out-by-stumbleupon/comment-page-1/#comment-46250 jon Tue, 04 May 2010 09:54:44 +0000 http://www.endgamepr.com/?p=1502#comment-46250 Stumbledupon are in the business of delivering an audience to their advertisers. That is how they make their money. A minimum of 10% of stumbled sites are paid advertisments. That is why stumbledupon exists. It does not exist for you or me or him but to make money. Stumbledupon are in the business of delivering an audience to their advertisers. That is how they make their money. A minimum of 10% of stumbled sites are paid advertisments.

That is why stumbledupon exists. It does not exist for you or me or him but to make money.

]]> By: Steve Mullen http://www.endgamepr.com/blog/2010/03/19/shut-out-by-stumbleupon/comment-page-1/#comment-45233 Steve Mullen Mon, 19 Apr 2010 11:51:13 +0000 http://www.endgamepr.com/?p=1502#comment-45233 Hi John -- I hear what you're saying and there's no need to educate me on the "raison d'etre" for StumbleUpon. What irked me was that I wrote a blog post describing a good strategy for helping people find your content on StumbleUpon, received a good review from a community manager from SU, and then got cut off for using that exact strategy. If you'd like to read that post, it's linked in the first sentence in this post. If what I was doing was wrong, then it appears one hand doesn't know what the other is doing at StumbleUpon. Hi John — I hear what you’re saying and there’s no need to educate me on the “raison d’etre” for StumbleUpon. What irked me was that I wrote a blog post describing a good strategy for helping people find your content on StumbleUpon, received a good review from a community manager from SU, and then got cut off for using that exact strategy. If you’d like to read that post, it’s linked in the first sentence in this post.

If what I was doing was wrong, then it appears one hand doesn’t know what the other is doing at StumbleUpon.

]]> By: john http://www.endgamepr.com/blog/2010/03/19/shut-out-by-stumbleupon/comment-page-1/#comment-45205 john Mon, 19 Apr 2010 00:15:07 +0000 http://www.endgamepr.com/?p=1502#comment-45205 I am somewhat surprised that you are disappointed that a social networking site actually wishes to be social and not a unpaid advertising site. SU's _raison d'etre_ is that of recommending sites that _you don't have anything personally to do with_ to friends and acquaintances. For example, if I thumbsupped KFC.com for the double down thingy, it'd be because I liked the double down, not because KFC paid me to do it. If your tastes are defined by the almighty dollar, that is your lookout, however, don't expect that I as a SU user desire your commercial tastes to influence what I stumble next I am somewhat surprised that you are disappointed that a social networking site actually wishes to be social and not a unpaid advertising site. SU’s _raison d’etre_ is that of recommending sites that _you don’t have anything personally to do with_ to friends and acquaintances. For example, if I thumbsupped KFC.com for the double down thingy, it’d be because I liked the double down, not because KFC paid me to do it. If your tastes are defined by the almighty dollar, that is your lookout, however, don’t expect that I as a SU user desire your commercial tastes to influence what I stumble next

]]> By: Steve Mullen http://www.endgamepr.com/blog/2010/03/19/shut-out-by-stumbleupon/comment-page-1/#comment-44475 Steve Mullen Thu, 01 Apr 2010 11:47:12 +0000 http://www.endgamepr.com/?p=1502#comment-44475 Here's an update: It appears StumbleUpon may have turned the spigot back on for me. I noticed spikes in traffic over the last couple of days on my client site where I used this strategy. After checking Google Analytics for the source of those spikes, I found StumbleUpon is responsible. Apparently one of the articles I stumbled at the end of February has taken off, and now has 664 views through the service. I haven 't stumbled anything since writing this blog post, but I may start limited stumbling again, to see what happens. Here’s an update: It appears StumbleUpon may have turned the spigot back on for me. I noticed spikes in traffic over the last couple of days on my client site where I used this strategy. After checking Google Analytics for the source of those spikes, I found StumbleUpon is responsible. Apparently one of the articles I stumbled at the end of February has taken off, and now has 664 views through the service. I haven ‘t stumbled anything since writing this blog post, but I may start limited stumbling again, to see what happens.

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