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		<title>By: Steve Mullen</title>
		<link>http://www.endgamepr.com/blog/2009/03/18/top-10-dead-or-dying-pr-tactics/comment-page-2/#comment-40028</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Mullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 12:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jue,

Sorry to hear about your event, but I don&#039;t think you can use one example as a reason to throw out methods that work, and PR mixed with social media and social networking *does* work.  I can&#039;t tell you why your event wasn&#039;t successful, but I&#039;ve had plenty of experiences that are the opposite of yours.  

-Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jue,</p>
<p>Sorry to hear about your event, but I don&#8217;t think you can use one example as a reason to throw out methods that work, and PR mixed with social media and social networking *does* work.  I can&#8217;t tell you why your event wasn&#8217;t successful, but I&#8217;ve had plenty of experiences that are the opposite of yours.  </p>
<p>-Steve</p>
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		<title>By: JueS</title>
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		<dc:creator>JueS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 21:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recently, everything I ever believed about PR went out the window: An organization with which I&#039;m affiliated as a volunteer had the grand opening of its retail storefront in downtown Chicago the weekend before Thanksgiving. This literacy org has been around since 2006 and built quite a reputation and renown for its programs, and collected somewhere close to half a million books to stock the store. The opening was mentioned in all the major Chicago media, from the public radio station to the Chicago Tribune. The organization&#039;s marketing director also spread the word via its 2500-member volunteer &quot;army,&quot; the blog, website, Twitter, Facebook, email -- so all the new social media were employed alngside the &quot;old&quot; traditional techniques.

And barely anyone showed up.

So my conclusion almost has to be this: PR itself as a marketing technique is dying. There&#039;s just too much competing for everyone&#039;s attention -- both the press as well as the consuming public -- and unless you have the $3 million for a Superbowl commercial, it&#039;s a crap shoot as to whether anyone will hear, see or read your message, whether paid for or PR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently, everything I ever believed about PR went out the window: An organization with which I&#8217;m affiliated as a volunteer had the grand opening of its retail storefront in downtown Chicago the weekend before Thanksgiving. This literacy org has been around since 2006 and built quite a reputation and renown for its programs, and collected somewhere close to half a million books to stock the store. The opening was mentioned in all the major Chicago media, from the public radio station to the Chicago Tribune. The organization&#8217;s marketing director also spread the word via its 2500-member volunteer &#8220;army,&#8221; the blog, website, Twitter, Facebook, email &#8212; so all the new social media were employed alngside the &#8220;old&#8221; traditional techniques.</p>
<p>And barely anyone showed up.</p>
<p>So my conclusion almost has to be this: PR itself as a marketing technique is dying. There&#8217;s just too much competing for everyone&#8217;s attention &#8212; both the press as well as the consuming public &#8212; and unless you have the $3 million for a Superbowl commercial, it&#8217;s a crap shoot as to whether anyone will hear, see or read your message, whether paid for or PR.</p>
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		<title>By: 6 Effective Small Business Public Relations Tips &#124; New Syndication</title>
		<link>http://www.endgamepr.com/blog/2009/03/18/top-10-dead-or-dying-pr-tactics/comment-page-2/#comment-39016</link>
		<dc:creator>6 Effective Small Business Public Relations Tips &#124; New Syndication</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 05:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 6. Social media is here to stay &#8211; its ease and accessibility make it virtually unlimited for PR and marketing opportunities. For a small business, it’s a low-cost way to build a large-looking presence.  And social media [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 6. Social media is here to stay &#8211; its ease and accessibility make it virtually unlimited for PR and marketing opportunities. For a small business, it’s a low-cost way to build a large-looking presence.  And social media [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 6 Effective Small Business Public Relations Tips &#124; Understanding Marketing</title>
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		<dc:creator>6 Effective Small Business Public Relations Tips &#124; Understanding Marketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 23:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] bite. 6. Social media is here to stay - its ease and accessibility make it virtually unlimited for PR and marketing opportunities. For a small business, it’s a low-cost way to build a large-looking presence.  And social media [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] bite. 6. Social media is here to stay &#8211; its ease and accessibility make it virtually unlimited for PR and marketing opportunities. For a small business, it’s a low-cost way to build a large-looking presence.  And social media [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Warum Twitter toll ist - aber noch längst nicht das nächste große Ding » Beitrag » Randbetrachtungen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warum Twitter toll ist - aber noch längst nicht das nächste große Ding » Beitrag » Randbetrachtungen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 08:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] die Twitter-Gemeinde, sollte ein offenkundig inkompatibles Unternehmen so unklug sein, sich mit alten Methoden der 1:n-Kommunikation an die Pioniere der n:n-Kommunikation ranwanzen zu [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] die Twitter-Gemeinde, sollte ein offenkundig inkompatibles Unternehmen so unklug sein, sich mit alten Methoden der 1:n-Kommunikation an die Pioniere der n:n-Kommunikation ranwanzen zu [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Mullen</title>
		<link>http://www.endgamepr.com/blog/2009/03/18/top-10-dead-or-dying-pr-tactics/comment-page-2/#comment-23650</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Mullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hereby name Joanna the Commenter of the Day, for managing to work the name of my PR firm into her comment.  Kudos!

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hereby name Joanna the Commenter of the Day, for managing to work the name of my PR firm into her comment.  Kudos!</p>
<p>:)</p>
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		<title>By: Joanna</title>
		<link>http://www.endgamepr.com/blog/2009/03/18/top-10-dead-or-dying-pr-tactics/comment-page-2/#comment-23647</link>
		<dc:creator>Joanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been in this business for a long time ... and the bottom line is that you use whatever works in order to produce the end game -- you never know what will turn a reporter&#039;s head -- technology has just made it all a lot easier to do ... nothing is ever dead if it gets the job done for the client! (except maybe printed media directories - thankfully!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been in this business for a long time &#8230; and the bottom line is that you use whatever works in order to produce the end game &#8212; you never know what will turn a reporter&#8217;s head &#8212; technology has just made it all a lot easier to do &#8230; nothing is ever dead if it gets the job done for the client! (except maybe printed media directories &#8211; thankfully!)</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Seideman</title>
		<link>http://www.endgamepr.com/blog/2009/03/18/top-10-dead-or-dying-pr-tactics/comment-page-2/#comment-23640</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Seideman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,
I fully agree that web-based versions are better. Being updated daily/weekly is a *huge* benefit over bi-annual printing.
Every now and then at work, I&#039;m told to search with the hard copy rather than with the website. It&#039;s able to fulfill certain needs on on specific projects.

Regarding ease of searching: it&#039;s only easy to search for specific words or well-tagged documents. Hard copy has already mastered this.

It&#039;s not as efficient, but if the internet goes out or your computer dies, it will still work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,<br />
I fully agree that web-based versions are better. Being updated daily/weekly is a *huge* benefit over bi-annual printing.<br />
Every now and then at work, I&#8217;m told to search with the hard copy rather than with the website. It&#8217;s able to fulfill certain needs on on specific projects.</p>
<p>Regarding ease of searching: it&#8217;s only easy to search for specific words or well-tagged documents. Hard copy has already mastered this.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not as efficient, but if the internet goes out or your computer dies, it will still work.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Mullen</title>
		<link>http://www.endgamepr.com/blog/2009/03/18/top-10-dead-or-dying-pr-tactics/comment-page-2/#comment-23638</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Mullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joshua: I understand your points, but in my view there are many, many reasons that the web-based version of media directories are better.  They&#039;re updated more frequently, they&#039;re available wherever you have a computer (i.e. you have access if you need a number while you&#039;re on the road), and they&#039;re easily searchable.  Books absolutely have a place in the world, but I can&#039;t imagine ever going back to the book version of a media directory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joshua: I understand your points, but in my view there are many, many reasons that the web-based version of media directories are better.  They&#8217;re updated more frequently, they&#8217;re available wherever you have a computer (i.e. you have access if you need a number while you&#8217;re on the road), and they&#8217;re easily searchable.  Books absolutely have a place in the world, but I can&#8217;t imagine ever going back to the book version of a media directory.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Seideman</title>
		<link>http://www.endgamepr.com/blog/2009/03/18/top-10-dead-or-dying-pr-tactics/comment-page-2/#comment-23634</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Seideman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with so much of this, but I have a thought on why number 2) Bacon’s Media Guides is still very useful.

While no one will argue about the power of web-based directories that are thousands of pages long, there are a few important pieces of value in hard copy editions.

- If the internet goes down on either side of the connection, you have lost access.  Hard copy works as long as you can see.

- There is a very strong difference in researching in hard copy. There is an intuitive understanding in finding information in a book, both with page number and location on the page.  

- You&#039;re also more likely to read through the information on the pages if you don&#039;t find it, instead of searching for key words while analyzing the surrounding context. This allows you to pick up more information that can help you later on.

Technology is wonderful, but if you become dependent on it, something as simple as a lack of access to the internet can cripple an entire day&#039;s work.  Books shall never die because they have the ultimate user interface that is intuitive, simple to master and stands by itself.

-Joshua
@joshualogan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with so much of this, but I have a thought on why number 2) Bacon’s Media Guides is still very useful.</p>
<p>While no one will argue about the power of web-based directories that are thousands of pages long, there are a few important pieces of value in hard copy editions.</p>
<p>- If the internet goes down on either side of the connection, you have lost access.  Hard copy works as long as you can see.</p>
<p>- There is a very strong difference in researching in hard copy. There is an intuitive understanding in finding information in a book, both with page number and location on the page.  </p>
<p>- You&#8217;re also more likely to read through the information on the pages if you don&#8217;t find it, instead of searching for key words while analyzing the surrounding context. This allows you to pick up more information that can help you later on.</p>
<p>Technology is wonderful, but if you become dependent on it, something as simple as a lack of access to the internet can cripple an entire day&#8217;s work.  Books shall never die because they have the ultimate user interface that is intuitive, simple to master and stands by itself.</p>
<p>-Joshua<br />
@joshualogan</p>
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		<title>By: Colleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m at a reporter at a newspaper with 77,000 daily circulation and growing. 
If you want to get my attention, e-mail a great story idea with names of people willing to be interviewed. But first, know the kinds of stories I seem to like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m at a reporter at a newspaper with 77,000 daily circulation and growing.<br />
If you want to get my attention, e-mail a great story idea with names of people willing to be interviewed. But first, know the kinds of stories I seem to like.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Mullen</title>
		<link>http://www.endgamepr.com/blog/2009/03/18/top-10-dead-or-dying-pr-tactics/comment-page-2/#comment-23621</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Mullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article on the &quot;aging of Facebook&quot;.  

http://tinyurl.com/cdugjz

It&#039;s largely tongue-in-cheek, but makes some good points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article on the &#8220;aging of Facebook&#8221;.  </p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/cdugjz" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/cdugjz</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s largely tongue-in-cheek, but makes some good points.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Mullen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Mullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you Michael.  Well said.  I might have posted something along those lines, but didn&#039;t have time to write it last night :)

The thing is, I&#039;ve never suggested PR people abandon traditional media relations altogether.  That would be a mistake.  The #1 item on this list says &quot;Newspaper-based Media Relations Strategy&quot;.  What I meant was a media relations strategy that is build solely on getting newspaper hits.  I suppose if you&#039;re selling adult diapers, that might make some sense ... and I suppose I should have given that caveat.  But, for most businesses, that strategy simply doesn&#039;t make sense.  You can&#039;t rely on the traditional media to reach most of a general audience anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you Michael.  Well said.  I might have posted something along those lines, but didn&#8217;t have time to write it last night :)</p>
<p>The thing is, I&#8217;ve never suggested PR people abandon traditional media relations altogether.  That would be a mistake.  The #1 item on this list says &#8220;Newspaper-based Media Relations Strategy&#8221;.  What I meant was a media relations strategy that is build solely on getting newspaper hits.  I suppose if you&#8217;re selling adult diapers, that might make some sense &#8230; and I suppose I should have given that caveat.  But, for most businesses, that strategy simply doesn&#8217;t make sense.  You can&#8217;t rely on the traditional media to reach most of a general audience anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Sponhour</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Sponhour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Tom Womack&#039;s thoughts.

While its no doubt true that today&#039;s seniors are not heavy Facebook users, baby boomers and middle age folks in general are heavily adopting many of these tools and over time the users of SM will become the seniors.

I wonder what Tom&#039;s thoughts are about the serious decline we are seeing in traditional media such as newspapers - half of all classified advertising is gone and the number of newspaper layoffs is growing at an incredible pace. In my community, the newspaper has elimianted 2 days of op/ed coverage and just laid off the editorial page editor - on top of many newsroom cuts.

Sure, seniors may want the &quot;touch and feel&quot; of traditional paper newspapers, but the advertising system that supports it is rapidly dying. See Detroit, Flint, Saginaw et al which have stopped 7 day paper delivery in favor of the web. Yes, these seniors are going to have to go online to find out about Social Security.

In the old days, PR folks could direct much of their attention at reporters, &quot;building relationships with editors&quot; ect., but I simply see those tactics as being 50% less important - not dead, just less important. There are simply fewer reporters/editors out there to influence and less print real estate on op/ed and other sections to seek to get placed in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Tom Womack&#8217;s thoughts.</p>
<p>While its no doubt true that today&#8217;s seniors are not heavy Facebook users, baby boomers and middle age folks in general are heavily adopting many of these tools and over time the users of SM will become the seniors.</p>
<p>I wonder what Tom&#8217;s thoughts are about the serious decline we are seeing in traditional media such as newspapers &#8211; half of all classified advertising is gone and the number of newspaper layoffs is growing at an incredible pace. In my community, the newspaper has elimianted 2 days of op/ed coverage and just laid off the editorial page editor &#8211; on top of many newsroom cuts.</p>
<p>Sure, seniors may want the &#8220;touch and feel&#8221; of traditional paper newspapers, but the advertising system that supports it is rapidly dying. See Detroit, Flint, Saginaw et al which have stopped 7 day paper delivery in favor of the web. Yes, these seniors are going to have to go online to find out about Social Security.</p>
<p>In the old days, PR folks could direct much of their attention at reporters, &#8220;building relationships with editors&#8221; ect., but I simply see those tactics as being 50% less important &#8211; not dead, just less important. There are simply fewer reporters/editors out there to influence and less print real estate on op/ed and other sections to seek to get placed in.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Mullen</title>
		<link>http://www.endgamepr.com/blog/2009/03/18/top-10-dead-or-dying-pr-tactics/comment-page-2/#comment-23500</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Mullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 03:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With that said, Tom, I hope you&#039;re not still blast faxing and mailing pitch letters to reporters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With that said, Tom, I hope you&#8217;re not still blast faxing and mailing pitch letters to reporters.</p>
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